Large Scale Railroad
Construction Progress 2013
Work sessions are on Saturday mornings usually around
Come down and help build a railroad!
For more information, or to volunteer, contact Burt
Wright (cell #) 444-0661
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Planned for Saturday (December 7, 2013):
This Saturday, we will meet at 8:00 AM to finish up the last
turnout (HOPEFULLY) which needs to have the guardrails installed and the
switch machine mounted. With Open Houses scheduled for both Saturday &
Sunday afternoon for the next two weekends, I don't think we'll begin
the excavation process out front to install the turnout as we don't want
to create a hazardous situation with so many visitors expected at the
Museum. Thus our attention will turn inside to working on a recently
acquired engine, three ride-on gondolas and another flat car based
ride-on car. Road testing these pieces will also be required. We might
even be able to ride the public on Saturday and/or Sunday depending on
what we're able to accomplish during the work session on Saturday.
Weather may also be somewhat limiting as showers may grace the
Last Saturday, Glenn Ellis, Roger Phillips, John Roads & Burt
Wright went to Silver City NM where we picked up some equipment from Mr.
Don Beem. Upon arriving at Don's house, we were greeted by four mule
deer who didn't seem the least bit concerned about our arrival
(obviously wasn't hunting season).
We spent the better part of two hours loading up three 6' long railroad
supply gondolas, one 6-wheeled gas powered switcher, and one flat car
with 3 padded seats. In addition to that haul, we obtained two steel
channel iron steaming bays that are between 11' and 12' long plus a
steel stair section that may be usable when it's time to rebuild the
stairs to the Caboose. We got back into town about 7:30. A big thank you
to Glenn Ellis for supplying the transportation to get this much needed
Two weeks ago, if you can remember that long ago, it rained like
crazy during our work session and again, we marveled at how well the
drainage systems we've installed are working. Water was probably running
about a foot deep along the back drainage channel but the track stayed
high and dry.
||Everywhere we looked, water was doing what we hoped it would.
||The excavation for the station platform became a lake, This will
correct itself once we have built the station & set the brick pavers
bringing the area up above surrounding grades.
|We turned our attention to the inside where we completed setting
all the rails of the new turnout. The stock rails were notched to
receive the points leaving only the guard rails to be installed to
complete the turnout.
Rain in the desert is such a wonderful event.
There will be a lot to talk about this Saturday. If you can spend the
day & help with the Open House after the work session, that would be
great. December's Open Houses are so important to the Museum as a source
of funding through Gift Shop sales and potential donations.
Looking forward to seeing you Saturday @ 8:00 AM.
PS: The 6-wheeled switcher has had its carb rebuilt (thanks to Don
VanManen and Glenn Ellis). The oil is changed and a battery obtained
thanks to Glenn Ellis. This switcher plus the engineer's car have been
donated to the Museum by an anonymous donor. It will be available for
all to enjoy once the bugs are worked out.
Saturday (November 30, 2013):
With Thanksgiving upon us tomorrow, the work session for Saturday is
cancelled. This will allow everyone to get some well deserved time to
spend with family and count our blessings.
On behalf of our newly appointed chairman, Jesse Miller, and myself,
please have a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend with your loved ones and
UPDATE: With unanimous BOD approval, the new GPD engine has officially
been ordered from Big Joe Trains in Flint Michigan. It is an Alco S-4
switcher, similar to the one pictured below.
It is currently under construction and should be delivered in a month
(or so). It will come unpowered and undecorated (in primer). We will
obtain the motor drive units and install them separately once the engine
||Our new Chairman, Jesse Miller, did a little photoshopping and
put the engine into a two tone orange configuration just as an
example of possible color combinations. We should be able to impose
on Jesse to work up other possibilities as well.
|The BOD discussions about having the unit painted by the
manufacturer in UP colors end up in agreement that the unit would be
better off delivered in primer just in case the work we will be
doing on it to install the motor drive units might damage the paint
scheme. There was also some thought that we may be able to secure
local donations to have it painted locally after all assembly work
is done. There was strong suggestions that the roadname should
reflect the Museum name and incorporate the Museum Logo.
rate, give some thought to this. Your ideas and suggestions are
Last Sunday, during the Open House, a new member joined our ranks.
Brian joined the GPD and will become an active member of the 7-1/2"
gauge group. His 12 year old son was also in attendance. Brian is the
individual who also recently ordered a GP-40 locomotive from Big Joe
Trains and it is probable that his locomotive and the Museum's new
locomotive will be shipped together to Tucson. We welcome Brian to our
Saturday (November 23, 2013):
This Saturday, beginning at 8:00 AM, we'll meet again to
hopefully finish up the left hand turnout. The weather is predicting
cooler temperatures and much needed rain showers so our outside
activities may get curtailed. There have been numerous exciting things
that have happened over the past few days related to the engine we are
shopping for. It looks like we might be able to get the Alco S-4 we were
hoping for after all. It's a long and interesting story that will be
shared with the group on Saturday morning.
In addition, we will also discuss the engine, cars, & rail purchase
possibility in Silver City NM. It also became known to me that the same
gentlemen has some of the steaming bays that were removed from the
Scottsdale Live Steamers facility. They were sold & removed a few years
ago and went up to Show Low. They were then moved to Silver City and
haven't yet been installed. We could use the steel on our 2nd bay.
Last Saturday, we had a lively discussion about the old GP-40 gas
engine that is available in Silver City. The owner had been very helpful
in sending photographs that were distributed via email. A lot of
knowledge was shared with no consensus reached. Given the age of the
engine, it will be critical to view and evaluate the engine in person in
order to make an informed decision. As such, we may be planning a jaunt
over to Silver City to inspect the equipment that this gentlemen has.
Most importantly, Jesse Miller has stepped forward to accept the
volunteer position to serve as Chairman of the 7-1/2" Gauge Committee
for 2014. Congratulations Jesse! Jesse has developed a flag that could
be used to bring attention to the track. He continues to improve it. Bob
Rubino said that he'd be proud to display this as a large patch on the
back of a jacket. Many kudos to Jesse on this outstanding effort.
Also during the work session, we cut out a 40' radius template that
will be helpful creating the curves at the north end station bypass
track. The turnout construction is proving to be more difficult that
anticipated as the ties keep moving around while securing the straight
stock rail. After some expressed frustration, we finally have the rail
secured & relatively straight. We re-cut the short pieces between the
frog and the points to be somewhat longer which will help with the
The Lightning Brothers have been busy again, this time putting
together a prototype of the scale billboard that will be installed along
the railroad. The Museum has already sold two billboard signs that will
grace the initial billboard for 2 years.
Don't forget that this Sunday is another Open House.
See you this Saturday.
Saturday (November 16, 2013):
NEW START TIME: 8:00 AM
After a couple weeks off - (it certainly didn't feel like a
couple weeks off), we'll gather again this Saturday and see if we can
finish up the turnout we started during the last work session. At the
Fall Meet of the Maricopa Live Steamers, we purchased 3 pairs of
bettendorf trucks from Tom Bee plus a couple of drawbar couplers and one
pair of knuckle couplers for the bench cars. There is also a lot of news
to report regarding the engine purchase. We also need to get serious
about selecting a new chairman to lead our group into next year. Don't
think for a minute that you can avoid being selected by not showing up!
On a more serious note, on behalf of the Museum Board of Directors and
the membership at large, I want to personally thank all those
individuals who helped with the load, move, setup, take down, and return
of the tables to and from the train meet last Friday and Saturday. The
meet was a great success with attendance up over past meets. We don't
have a final accounting but it was a great November Meet. From what I
could tell, vendors were happy and people were hauling lots of goodies
out the front door.
At our last work session, we began the construction of a left
hand turnout. First task was to re-create a template table by using a
couple of 6' tables. The bench car was moved into the Container for the
||Then we had to cut a bunch of spacer blocks to hold the spacing
of the ties. We began that process by using a table saw with a fence
to cut the blocks to equal length. Ask John Roads how that idea
worked out. We quickly switched to using the cutoff saw.
While that was going on, the ties had to be cut to specific length
and then laid out on the table. A backing board was clamped to the
tables to keep things in straight alignment.
||The frog was set using gauges designed and built by Raymond
|The rails were arranged using numerous track gauges and the
entire assembly began to start looking like a turnout.
||It's been more than a year since we built one of these, so the
learning curve needed some dusting off. We didn't have the points
completed yet, so final assembly couldn't be done during this
|By the end of the morning, we bid farewell to our good friend
After a brief visit, Hugh had to travel back to
Minnesota for knee replacement surgery. At the time of this writing,
Hugh has had the surgery and is convalescing at home. Hugh reported
that the surgery seems to have went well and he is looking forward
to PT beginning soon. He indicated that he will be rejoining the
group in early December.
Hopefully, we'll have Raymond back by then as well as his knee
replacement reportedly also went well. Rumor has it that he's up and
moving around - even driving around. I'm sure that the two of them
will have plenty to talk about although bending down to lay track
may not be in the cards for a while.
Hope to see you on Saturday - don't forget the 8:00 AM start time.
Thanks to John Roads for the pictures as Jesse wasn't able to be at the
Saturday (November 2, 2013):
This Saturday Session is Cancelled as we are going to MLS Fall
Meet in Phoenix.
In case you haven't heard, a significant part of the group will be
traveling to Phoenix this Saturday AM to attend the Fall Meet of the
Maricopa Live Steamers, thus the work session is cancelled. If you
haven't registered and want to attend, visit their website to register
for the meet on-line. There is no cost.
The following weekend is the
November Train Meet at the Expo Center. Our group helps with the
transport of the tables with the delivery scheduled for 8:00 AM, Friday,
November 8th and takedown scheduled to begin after the meet is over,
2:00 PM on Saturday, November 9th.
If you can help out on either or both days, it will be greatly
Saturday (October 26, 2013):
This Saturday, at 7:30 AM, we'll meet at the GPD to begin the
process of building another turnout (left hand) to be installed at the
north end of the property to enable the main line passing route around
the passenger terminal. This will entail having to create (albeit
temporary) a template table upon which the turnout can be constructed.
We also need to create a 40' radius template as the old one built a
couple years ago by Dale Cover has seen better days. Burt will bring a
1" x 8" board, 10' long upon which we will scribe a 40' radius arc and
then we can cut the arc leaving the template. The arc center should be
at the center (3-3/4" from the edge of board) of the 1 x 8 (actually
7-1/2" wide). We will also need to sweep out the cobwebs as we attempt
to remember how the turnouts were constructed. Luckily, we have some
members who were involved in the initial construction who will be able
to guide us through the process.
We have also got to install some hardware cloth into the Caboose stove
flue pipe so we will stop collecting pigeon carcasses inside the Caboose
Stove - yes, there is another one in the Stove and that makes at least
Last week, with BOD approval to remove the tree and add the main
line extension to the north end of the layout, the crew began the task
of tree removal. Survey of the area suggested that the best approach
would be to dig around the base of the tree to expose some of the major
roots and cut the easy to access ones.
All that remained was to restore the ground surface and load the
truck. With the help of Jesse, our head squasher in charge, the truck
got loaded and compacted, tied down and we moved onto the next project
for the day.
||Jim Degrood was present and accounted for with his survey
equipment (theodolite) to lay out the new track alignment and also
to shoot grades. While the tree was being taken down, Jim with the
assistance of a few other members, quickly got the alignment worked
out. Grade hubs were set (3' offset from the alignment) and the hub
elevations shot. We're ready to begin rough grading using the
When you see the wood hubs sticking out of the ground around the
front, you'll know what they are. During the Open House this Sunday, we
want to discourage kids from kicking any of these or pulling any of the
nails which were set to establish the alignment.
|Jesse has been exercising his creative juices again as evidenced
by the logo he created for the 7-1/2" railroad. Comments are
Hope to see you this Saturday @ 7:30 AM. This time, we really do
hope to see Hugh Madson.
Don't forget to mail in your ballots. Open House this Sunday, 12:30
to 4:30 PM
Several of the 7-1/2" group will be attending the MLS Fall meet. Thus
the work session on Saturday, November 2nd will also be cancelled. The
dates for the meet are 10-31 thru 11-3 although the group will be going
up on Saturday, the 2nd. If you plan on going, you need to register
(free) online at www.maricopalivesteamers.com
Saturday (October 19, 2013):
This Saturday, beginning at 7:30 AM (New Time - 30 minutes
later), we'll reconvene to start the process of creating the alignment
and the grading measurements for the new mainline track at the north end
of the Museum. It will be fun to do some grading and track work again as
it's been quite a while since we laid the last track. Part of this
process will be to remove the palo verde tree that is in direct conflict
with the alignment. A plan was discussed to temporarily remove a portion
of the chain link fence adjacent to the sidewalk to allow us to access
the tree with Glenn's bobcat may ease in the stump removal. Brink gloves
and if anyone has a usable chainsaw, let me know.
We will also discuss how we will build an additional left-hand turnout
to accommodate the new track. We may want to reconstruct another turnout
template table or some facsimile thereof. Bring your suggestions.
Two weeks ago, we mainly did yard work by removing a ton of tree
branches and vegetation from the north end of the property although some
additional ballasting work was also done.
||A lot of brush was cleared and Jesse stomped the heck out of the
load in Burt's truck.
The final result left the north end cleared again and very
presentable. People will again be able to walk down the sidewalk as
well. On behalf of the Board of Directors of the Museum, the efforts to
maintain the appearance of the grounds by the 7-1/2 Gauge committee are
A rumor has it that Hugh Madsen may be present & accounted for this
weekend. Keep an eye out for him.
See you Saturday @ 7:30 AM. Coffee will be brewing.
Saturday (October 12, 2013):
Although it's late notice, better late than never. The work session
scheduled for this Saturday Oct. 12th is cancelled. We will
resume the following Saturday - I promise. There will also be some old
faces back next Saturday as well. FYI, Jeff Swanson has returned to the
Hospital with an infection. We hope for his speedy return - so does he!
FYI, the BOD approved the track plan revision including the tree removal
to facilitate the revision. For those interested, we will have a vehicle
going up to Phoenix for the Maricopa Live Steamers Fall Meet on
Saturday, November 2nd. If you're interested in attending, give Burt or
Glenn a call.
Saturday (October 5, 2013):
This Saturday @ 7:00 AM, we'll do a thorough evaluation of the
track alignment change proposed for the north end of the building.
Hopefully, we'll get the alignment staked out this week so we'll
actually have it placed on the ground for review. We'll also have some
discussion about the train shed planned for the north end in terms of
size, shape, & design. We want this structure to look nice as a scaled
down representation of an engine house of some similar type of structure
although it will need to be secured to prevent vandalism.
As a 2nd task, the trees have begun taking over the drainage structure
at the north end and we should probably give some effort to cut some of
the materials away.
Last weekend was spent primarily brainstorming and the effort was
well worth the time. We decided that the turntable may not actually be
necessary as we could create a movable steaming bay on rolling casters
that could turn engines around when necessary. This would take the place
of the removable steaming bay that was future planned for the loading
zone. This will also keep us out of trouble with respect to utilization
of the loading zone as it is required by the City. We took a lot of time
walking the route for the planned main line addition and also did some
measuring of the tracks in the container to decide the optimum width for
the train shed. The weather was spectacular as it will probably be again
Our Chairman, Raymond McDaniel, is hanging up his Chairman hat as he
is going to be having some knee surgery later this month. Raymond has
served as Chairman of the group for nearly two years and our success is
partly due to his management and oversight. We appreciate everything he
has done for us and we also know that his leadership has left us in
great shape. Having said all of that, we'll be looking for a "Regular
Member" in our group to step up and offer to Chair the 7-1/2" gauge
committee as we move into our first year of public ridership. It isn't a
demanding job as this group has always supported it's leaders.
Looking forward to seeing you this Saturday.
Saturday (September 28, 2013):This Saturday,
beginning at 7:00 AM as usual, we'll meet again to take on some
additional tasks. The Operational Rules were distributed via the email
blast two weeks ago and we should all have had a chance to review them.
Final comments will be collected as we need to get them finalized. All
comments are welcome. We will also go over the track plan changes being
considered at the north end of the layout - north of the building.
Attached is a PDF of the current thinking subject to lots of comments.
North end Layout
Last week, roger again brought his train for more track testing.
The biggest project was taking a hump out of the curved section on the
track near the caboose.
||This resulted in huge ride improvements and was worth the
effort. We were joined in the effort by Bill Kaval and his son Nate.
Youth on the shovels and rakes were definitely welcome.
Lots of laps were ridden in preparation of the Open House the
Although public rides didn't happen, Raymond McDaniel was able to get
his train out and run several laps around the compound without incident
during the Open House.
Hope to see you all this Saturday. This is the weather we've all been
Saturday (September 21, 2013):
This Saturday @ 7 AM, we'll meet again to take care of a
fairly annoying hump in the track south of the south drive. It is
expected that this will take at least an hour, perhaps more. We invite
those who have trains, to consider running them after we get the hump
taken care of. After running trains and completing track work, we're
going to do another review of the Operational Rules which were created
by the committee last year. I'm attaching a current copy with the
Draft-3 watermark removed and one additional change that was motivated
by a comment from our insurance carrier. This review will be beneficial
as we now have some actual experience under our belts from the Open
House two weeks ago. It has also been proposed that we create a short
"pocket sized" version of the rules to be applicable to Public
We will also discuss insurance issues to make sure everyone understands
what is in place to provide liability protection to operators and
volunteers. We will also have further discussion about an engine
purchase (gas/electric) as the day is quickly approaching where we're
going to have to make that decision.
Last, but not least, we will begin the discussion of track plan
revisions for the north end of the building. I'll try to have a sketch
of what is being considered available at the work session. .
Two weeks ago, we finished up the re-cutting of the flange ways
across the south drive. While this was being done, there was allot of
ballast raking and general cleanup going on in preparation for the 1st
Open House of the fall season.
||Chris Cheely has recently joined the group and
brings allot of new energy and excitement to the project. Chris has
kind of adopted the Caboose by getting too close and getting sucked
in by the vacuum. He's responded to the challenge by touching up the
truck assemblies and the Caboose numbers with fresh black paint
which really helped the appearance.
We also mounted the recently donated switch stand and did some last
minute track leveling.
||We unloaded PVC piping from the Caboose & put together some
public railings in preparation for the Sunday Open House. Then, one
Sunday, we had our first test of the system. Roger Phillips
graciously allowed his equipment to ride the public on this
unofficial first test of the track. We applied the previously
created Operational Rules creating & reinforcing the job tasks for
the Engineer, the Conductor, the Stationmaster, and also had a
gateman with flag to safety allow the train to cross the entrance
drive to the Museum. Yes, we had some derailments but they may have
been more related to a truck issue with one of Roger's gondola's,
but the good news is that there were no major issues whatsoever.
Records were diligently kept with the tally being 23 public rides
with 92 ticketed passengers being given rides of 2-lap duration
(approximately 4 minutes long). There were allot of smiling faces.
|It was a perfect day for the trial as we had rain delays that
resulted in us having to stop the rides and cover the train. This
enabled the group to retire to the back room to discuss the
experiences and also brainstorm new ideas. This proved to be
invaluable as many good ideas about track revisions at the north end
of the layout were discussed and will be considered in greater
detail at the next work sessions.
The day was a perfect setting to
gain much valuable experience about our railroad.
As a footnote to this event, the Board of Directors has
decided to ask the General Membership for authorization to purchase our
first engine. A yes/no ballot item will be mailed out to the membership
with the election ballots soon. Please consider this important first
step to having the Museum own its own engine.
We'll see you Saturday -
PS: don't forget the Open House this Sunday as well.
Saturday (September 14, 2013):
Due to several factors, not the least of which was the fact that
several members attended the General Membership Meeting last Friday night,
the work session last Saturday, and the Open House on Sunday and as a
result are somewhat "burned out". Add to that the fact that at
least three key people won't be available including the two key holders,
thus Chairman Raymond has agreed to declare this weekend cancelled with us
returning to work the following Saturday.
We'll send out the normal email reminding everyone next week. Please enjoy
the weekend and be safe.
Saturday (September 7, 2013):
This Saturday beginning at 7:00 AM will be the last work session
before the 1st Open House of the season. We need to make sure that things
are spruced up and that track conditions are the best they can be. We will
also complete the saw cutting of the flange grooves in the south driveway
as that was not completed last week. We also need to discuss operation
procedures for the Open House as Roger Phillips may have his train on the
tracks and Don VanManen entrusted his train to Jesse Miller.
Last weekend, we began the work by cutting the flange grooves that
were tooled in the concrete work a little deeper and wider to reduce risk
of imbedded rocks damaging wheel flanges. First cut was the sidewalk which
went pretty quickly. Then the track crew performed some track work between
the sidewalk and the north driveway entrance. Operation of trains revealed
a "hump" in that section resulting in the need to lower the
center portion of the track.
||Rather than pulling the ballast out from in between
all of the ties, it was decided that it would be easier to remove
the entire short section of track. The plate type rail joiners were
also replaced at the same time as they also presented a minor amount
of flange interference. The track was reset, leveled, and the
The foam pads were again a godsend for everyone's
knees and the canopies provided much needed shade.
While the track crew was working their magic on this section, the
flange grooves were re-cut across the south drive entrance. This was a
little more time consuming, but the result was worth the effort.
||Work was completed at about 11:00 AM with the results
again improving the ride in preparation of our 1st Open House of the
Please join us this Saturday again at 7:00 AM to make final
preparations for Sunday's Open House.
Don't forget the General Membership Meeting this Friday night with
dinner served at 5:30 for a $5 donation while table sales of trains will
be featured. Tables can be purchased for $5 each and each table purchaser
is allowed to then add 3 items into the Auction which will be conducted
immediately following the Meeting. We haven't done this for quite some
time and there is quite a bit of excitement brewing so don't miss out.
Bring money and an appetite. See you there.
Saturday (August 31, 2013):
Only two work sessions left till the first Open House of the season.
This Saturday, we'll hopefully continue to run trains and test
track conditions. This will include re-cutting the grooves in the concrete
drive entrances. Running trains is really a great way to discover issues
so that they may be immediately corrected.
Last Saturday may have been one of the most rewarding days at the
Train Museum in recent history. Roger Phillips showed up at the Museum
pulling his trailer full to the brim with his trains so that we could test
the track conditions under expected conditions of having a complete train
Once the trailer was opened, there was a flurry of activity as the
off-loading began. At this point, it was a great test of the transfer
table as it was called upon to reach to top of 3 levels to unload the cars
from Roger's trailer. Big Joe worked well although we needed to use the
transfer plate that Roger brought instead of the flip down plate installed
on Big Joe to receive trains that may be riding in the back of a pickup.
Removal of the flip down plate was simple due to the design and presented
||Roger's ride-on cars are gondolas fitted with
adjustable seats that permitted us to ride with various passenger
configurations. His engine is a GP-40 in Burlington Northern
decoration. It is gas powered similar to Raymond's engine although
it is longer.
Big Joe was definitely up to the task of lifting and setting - that
design & construction has worked out well although some work may still
be needed on the flip ramp to make the transfer go a little easier.
||Once on the track, there was no problem getting
volunteers to start riding. Grins were detected everywhere. The only
things missing were Raymond's and Don's trains.
After almost two hours of continuous running, we were able to pinpoint
problems (vertical curves/dips) and the track crew got to work re-setting
some of the rail near the caboose enclosure.
||This work involved lifting the track in the ballast
and re-tamping the ballast to take the humps out and then
re-checking the lateral level. We then spread several more wheel
barrows of ballast as this area didn't get enough ballast during the
There was even some time for a little laying down on the job - are
these guys really working?
||At the end of the day, another lap around the bend to
test the track crew's repairs and then sadly, it was time to repack
the train into Roger's trailer. We are sooooo looking forward to
getting a Museum owned train.
It was a beautiful day at the Train Museum with cool temps from recent
rains and a nice breeze (finally). We didn't even need shade.
Hey you snow birds - get back to town - you're gonna love this.
Saturday (August 24, 2013):
Are the dog days of summer done?
This Saturday @ 7:00 AM, we'll meet again as the monsoon season
will again attempt to bring us some much needed rain. The temperature will
be much lower than last weekend which proved to be a real scorcher. With
most of the kinks now removed in the curved section rail joints, we can
start to concentrate on operation in preparation of our first Open House
in September. We hope that we can encourage one of our locomotive owners
to begin operating to gain some much needed track experience. While that
is going on, we'll also begin cutting the grooves in the rail crossings at
the concrete drive entrances a little wider and deeper.
Last week was brutal with heat in the lower 100's and little wind
to give some relief. Although we had shade, it was little benefit without
some breeze. We began the morning by loading up a flat with the shade
canopy and some tools and pushed it around to the final curve section
|We then set upon the task to remove the kinks from the
curve section joints using the pipe wrenches. We reset the gauge at
each joint while we went along. Burt promised to bring some foam
cushions for this session and as luck would have it, he found a 6'
square sheet of foam laying in the roadway next to the Museum
adjacent to the drainage structure. This sheet gut cut up and
provided much needed cushioning for the crew's knees.
We did accomplish what we hoped we would by finishing the work to
eliminate the kinks at the curve section joints along the last curved
section between the south driveway entrance and the caboose
enclosure. This portion of track needed a significant amount of
ballast placed as well so part of the crew began the tedious work of
shoveling and wheel barrowing rock to complete this section.
||The fresh ballast was tamped into place using the
tamper built by Dale Cover and the sledge hammer. Track
leveling (lateral) was verified and the crew called it a day. Phew.
We look forward to seeing the group again this Saturday @ 7:00 AM.
Saturday (August 17, 2013):
We'll meet again this Saturday beginning at 7:00 AM and we will pickup
where the track crew left off - just south of the south entrance drive on
the curved section leading into the caboose enclosure. This should be the
last curved section needing our attention to eliminate the kinks where the
curved sections join together. Burt assures us that we'll have much
thicker pads to put down as our collective knees are taking a beating.
Work will begin early to beat the heat and we'll set out both canopies
again to create shade. With a self-imposed goal of being able to safely
run trains at our first Open House in September, we are very close to
having the track ready.
Last Saturday, we came together after a wonderful week off where
several of our group traveled up to Durango to ride the Silverton Branch
as well as riding the Cumbres & Toltec out of Antonito. Perhaps it was
inevitable, but what we found at the Museum was our first vandalism on the
7-1/2" gauge. Although nothing was stolen, it did appear that there
may have been an attempt as the center siding on the rear of the building
appeared to have been lifted about an inch resulting in a very visible
hump in the rail.
|This damage definitely appeared to be human caused and was very
disappointing to see. The ballast had to be removed from about 8' of
track and the rail pushed down to take the bend out and then the
ballast replaced. At any rate, an hour of work and we got the siding
back where it belonged, realigned and leveled.
If that wasn't enough, the wire fence that runs along the south side of
the property was completely cut open about 20' from the west end. What is
bizarre is that you can simply walk around the west end as it does not
continue beyond the last post. To add more confusion to this apparent
mal-intent is the fact that the vandals walked right past a stack of
prepared track sections to get to the piece that they tried to remove.
Consequently, the motive may have simply been to vandalize the track and
not steal it. At any rate, an hour of work and we got the siding back
where it belonged, realigned and leveled.
||Jesse has been working overtime trying to find a
suitable engine for the Museum to use to pull public trains and this
find was a really nice unit.
|While the track repairs and fence mending exercise was
going on, the other track crew continued on around the north and
east sides of the Museum taking the kinks out of the curved track
||This process has really begun to pick up speed as the
crew has the process down. Re-gauging also takes place as the curve
section joints are corrected. There is only one more large curved
area that will need attention that should get completed this
Look forward to seeing you this Saturday.
Saturday (August 10, 2013):
After that wonderful trip to Colorado to ride the Durango &
we then traveled to Antonito to ride the Cumbres
A CD full of favorite pictures that are being gathered from those
persons who went on the trip is being put together by Bill Nunn and should
become available soon. Perhaps we'll have a program at the Museum where we
can share the pic's on a big screen.
This Saturday, we'll continue working on our own railroad by
continuing to improve the track conditions as we find them. After riding
the narrow gauge this weekend, I can attest to the fact that I think our
tracks are going to be better. I'm still swaying back & forth.
If you recall, the work from the last work session included the
placement of our first order of engraved bricks. This was our first
attempt at lifting out the already placed bricks and it, like everything
else we've done, involved a learning curve. We were loaned a brick
extractor tool which helped immensely although it too, had a learning
||We quickly learned that using a hack saw blade rather
than the flat bladed scraper was more helpful in scraping out the
sand previously placed between the brick joints.
|Water was also a big help in loosening the sand making
it a tad easier to scrape out.
The engraved bricks are slightly thinner which requires a very
slight addition of sand into the hole before setting the engraved
||With the bricks set, the area dried out, and the sand
replaced between the joints, we sat back and admired the effort. The
brick sales will represent a major fund raising opportunity for our
group and will ultimately pay to purchase a Museum engine and get
our public ride-on cars on the track. It is hoped that this initial
placement will be seen by visitors to the Museum starting in
September and result in many more purchases.
|With the brick work completed, the efforts moved to the rear of
the Museum as we eliminated the abrupt kinks that were evident in
the track joints on the curve section. Previously learned from Roger
Phillips shared experience in Oregon, the use of pipe wrenches
enables us to transition these joints seamlessly. This also allows
the track gauge to be held consistently through the curve. Jesse was
inspecting the ROW outside and found a family of ants crossing the
track at a grade crossing ignoring the warning signals.
As the temperature crept upward, the crew retired inside the Museum in
preparation for lunch. Jesse climbed a ladder took a shot of the progress
being made by the OH G-gauge group. Jeff came down and was looking a
little more like he does now than he did before. It is rumored that he'll
be back behind the wheel in September which put a smile on his dad's face.
Also inside, to our horror, we witnessed a tragic wreck on the HO layout
as two trains collided spreading destruction along the main line ROW on
the northeast side of the layout.
Looking forward to seeing everyone this Saturday.
Saturday (August 3, 2013):
Just a reminder about this weekend -
Work Session cancelled due to GPD Charter Trip to Durange
Saturday (July 27, 2013):
This Saturday, we'll open up the portable canopies and continue
working on track alignments - mainly on the curved sections to eliminate
the small kinks where the track sections are joined. It's amazing how much
those canopies help to keep us cool as we keep making headway toward
creating a reliable train operating circuit.
We can also cut the grooves for wheel flanges a little wider/deeper across
the drives as there have been some comments that they may be too small.
|Last week, after a lengthy break from the
action, we began tackling the kink problems at the curved track
joints. Roger was extremely helpful bringing significant experience
into the group from his affiliation with the track in Oregon.
The results is that the task which has previously frustrated the
group with mixed success now is considerably easier and the ride is
vastly improved. We completed the work on the two original
turnouts at the read and tested the process with several rail cars.
The guard rails were remounted with wider spacers
to prevent wheel flanges from riding up on the taper. In addition,
the tapers were re-ground to be less abrupt. The results were very
encouraging as we appear to finally have a handle on these problem areas.
After testing several times with a string of unladen rail cars, we
found that we were having unpredictable derailment issues with Raymond
McDaniel's orange hopper. We checked gauge, we checked rock obstructions,
we checked levelness of the track and nothing appeared to be out of
spec's. The only common thread between the derailment issues was that it
was always happening on curved sections. Roger again came to the rescue as
he had encountered this same problem at the Oregon track. We turned the
car upside down and it quickly became apparent what might be causing the
problem. Paint was being scraped from the bottom of the car by the wheels
as the car rode on a curve. There was no space other than a very thin
plastic washer between the car cross-member and the truck bolster. When
the truck turned, the wheel would contact the angled bottom of the hopper
causing the derailment. As a result of this, the Oregon group mandates the
installation of a minimum 1/8" spacer be installed. With Raymond's
permission, we fabricated spacers from fender washers, added grease, and
put it back together - and no more derailments. Experience is such a great
|We were also given the benefit of learning how to bend
that last 6" of rail on the curved sections at the joints.
These joints typically have had kinks where they came together and
we tried everything trying to reduce their impact. Everything except
a pipe wrench and cheater bar. This suggestion worked like a charm.
The grooves cast into the switch frogs are also a little shallow
causing a fairly significant bump when a car or engine rolls
through. Roger made short work of creating a smooth transition with
his angle head grinder. While the track crew was working on making
the ride better on the rails.
At the end of the morning, Raymond McDaniel gave us a demonstration of
Plasma Cutting as he recently got a new Plasma Cutter. Similar to an
Acetylene torch (except it uses no gas), this little torch does amazingly
nice work on metal up to 1/8" thick and it's powered from a 120 VAC
Earlier in the day, Raymond also shortened up the lock box on the 20'
container making it much easier to get your hands up to the lock inside.
Last, Jesse has been keeping his eye on the Goose at the www.DiscoverLiveSteam.com
website and noticed that the price had been reduced to $3,950. Seems very
reasonable for the Goose and the ride-on car.
Hoping to see everyone at the work session this Saturday at 7:00 AM.
Remember, the following Saturday work session will be cancelled due to the
Museum Charter trip to Pagosa Springs, Durango and Antonito.
Saturday (July 20, 2013):
After THREE weeks off, we'll restart the track work this Saturday at
the Museum beginning at 7:00 AM. Work scheduled includes re-assessing the
expansion gaps in the rail as some have closed entirely putting some of
the alignment at risk. We also will again be tackling the turnouts along
the side of the building including finishing up the guard rails on the
first turnout we repaired at our last work session. It is also possible
that we may have the first order of engraved bricks to insert into the
|If you can remember our last work session
(seems like it's been months), we finished the board crossing at the
front of the Museum. The boards were sanded with the level brought
to rail height level so no trip hazard will present itself.
We applied linseed oil again and the installation is now complete
and looks great. Once the design for the patio to the north is
finalized, we can begin that project (when it cools off).
Mark from Rock Solid Materials delivered the
remaining 5 pallets of bricks to the Museum and we placed them into the
||These pallets weight over 1-1/2 tons each so we
couldn't move them with Glenn's bobcat. The bricks are neatly placed
and don't take away from the appearance of the Caboose. Dale Cover
built a very handy "brick box" which has 10 brick sized
compartments that will enable the bricks that are being taken to the
engraver to be safely transported without being damaged or chipped.
10 bricks is the minimum engraving order so this box will come in
very handy. The initial order of brick engravings has now been sent
to the engraver.
The last order of the day was to begin
rebuilding the turnouts on the west side of the Museum Building. These
were the first built and our collective lack of experience resulted in a
few functional issues which needed to get resolved.
|The crew was able to pretty much resolve
the issues on the first turnout with little difficulty and has a
good start on the 2nd. Rail needed to be re-gauged, the guard rails
needed to be re-spaced, and the points needed to have a little bit
of curve put into them. It's all part of the learning process.
A question amongst some of the newer members has arose about General
Membership Meetings over the summer. Simply stated, there are no General
Membership Meetings in July or August. The next meeting will be September
6th. There will be another BOD meeting in August (7th) if any are
interested in attending. Work sessions normally occur during the summer as
each layout committee dictates. The normal Wednesday night work session
schedule normally occurs throughout the summer. I hope this clarifies any
Jesse Miller was doing some browsing on Discover Live Steams website (www.DiscoverLiveSteam.com)
and found the following "Goose" for sale. Wouldn't that look
nice running around the Museum on Open House days?
Again, thanks to Jesse for all of the photo taking.
I look forward to seeing everyone this Saturday, July 20th.
Saturday (June 29, 2013 - July 6, 2013):
Well, this Saturday is predicted to be 113 degrees. That's a bit too
hot and a little risky for this group to be working outside. Your Chairman
has decided that the work session is called off as a result. The following
weekend may be somewhat cooler, but it's a long weekend resulting from the
4th of July being Thursday and some of the remaining group are planning to
do family stuff and/or "Get out of Dodge". Consequently, it too
is being cancelled. We will reconvene on Saturday, July 13th.
So take a couple of weekends off from RR building and catch up on stuff at
home. Enjoy the holiday if you can, and most important, stay out of the
We'll see you all soon.
Saturday (June 22, 2013):
I'm getting hot just thinking about this weekend ! ! ! But we're going
to do it anyway. We'll reconvene this Saturday @ 7:00 AM to do some work
on the railroad after taking last week off. There are several tasks at
hand including the following:
1. We need to figure out where we are going to store the 5 additional
pallets of bricks. This may seem like a relatively easy task, but looks
may be deceiving as the pallet loads are too heavy for Glenn to move
with his Bobcat. Thus we need to make sure they get placed in a good,
well thought out location that can be accessed by the forklift used by
Mark - the owner of Rock Solid Solutions next door to the Museum where
the bricks are currently stored.
2. We need to finish sanding the boards across the rails out front
and get another coat of linseed oil onto them before the monsoons begin.
We also need to replace the temporary screws used with deck screws as we
had run out of the colored ones.
3. We now have some drawings for the station platform in hand
although they aren't yet completely finished. We need to go over the
requirements for this project before moving it ahead.
4. We have the springs to finish the turnout switch mechanism's so
they can now be completed.
5. We need to redo two of the west side turnouts as they are causing
derailments. This is going to be a fairly large project that will take
some time & patience.
We can set up a couple of shade canopies to assist in the board work and
also the turnout repairs. Working in the shade makes these types of
projects much more pleasant.
The last work session two weeks ago, we were able to finally finish
installing the boards at the rail crossings in the front. That was tedious
work requiring a lot of patience, but the results, I hope you'll agree,
were worth it.
||Getting those straight boards into the curved spaces
while maintaining the parallel pattern was quite an exercise. There
was a lot of O.J.T. (on the job training) to be sure. We also had to
create some more 1" boards by ripping a 4x4 on the miniature
table saw. Slow work, but we got the job done with no issues.
||Having the correct tools always makes a job easier.
This time we had the little sabre saw to cut the radius'.
||The boards on the north side of the 2nd rail went in
fast - no cutting necessary. That left only the boards adjacent to
and inside of the curved section of rail.
A lot of fit and finish, but one by one, the boards fell into place.
Holes were pre-drilled, countersunk, and screws set into place.
|It won't be long until people will start walking
across this RR crossing waiting for their turn to ride the railroad.
They'll look down and have no idea what went into building this
feature. Mind you, It isn't even close to the effort to build the
rock retaining wall, but it's still a work of art to those who
participated. We'll be installing engraved bricks shortly as the
initial order is being prepared.
While the majority of our group took last weekend off (including
myself), a couple of our members were busy in their workshops. Raymond
McDaniel built a solid brass valve header that will distribute steam to
all of the steam requiring accessories on his Prairie through a bunch of
true to scale valves. I hope he brings it this Saturday as it's a piece of
art. Dale Cover, recovering slowly from eye surgery, took on the challenge
of building a "brick box" that will enable 10 bricks to be
carried to and from the engraver without incurring damage. The box design
was tweaked with "Dale ideas" to make it work better and be
stronger. It'll be there Saturday as well.
Monsoons are coming - we wait in anticipation as the desert needs this
life blood badly. We'll also be able to see again how well our drainage
structures are working.
Hope to see you this weekend.
Saturday (June 15, 2013):
Due to significant heat and some planned out of town trips by a few
members, the work session this Saturday has been declared CANCELLED. We'll meet next weekend
to continue "working on the railroad". Look for an email next
week with the normal description of work plans for the session plus a
report from the last work session including another batch of great
pictures from Jesse.
Have a great weekend.
Saturday (June 8, 2013):
Starting time this Saturday will be 7:00 AM. Summer is
definitely here, so be prepared for some heat. It's likely that we'll be
done a little early to avoid overheating and we'll need to stay hydrated.
We will hopefully finish the wood crossing over the 2nd track as the
framework for the planks was completed last week. We also need to work on
one or both of the turnouts along the side of the building near the
meeting room. It may be too hot to do much additional work.
Last week, we took a break from the work sessions and instead,
worked to help with the setup and takedown of tables for the train meet at
the Expo Center.
|I want to extend a most heartfelt thank you to those
who were able to help in any way to lighten the load for everyone. A
special thank you to Glenn Ellis for again lending us the use of his
equipment trailer and truck to do the heavy hauling. The setup went
virtually without a hitch as it took less than 2 hours from start to
The only glitch was that the Hall wasn't open when we arrived "on
time" as usual. The boy's took the delay in kind, by doing their own
interpretation of "King of the Hill".
Take down took a little longer as slow vendors cause delays inside the
hall with the table breakdown. The 105 degree heat on Saturday PM didn't
help much either as those who followed the tables back to the Museum
stacked all of the tables into the steel container (aka: easy bake solar
oven). The June meet is always going to be a tough take down. Next time,
we need to get air blowing through the container since we can open that
box at each end.
2 weeks ago, Jesse again documented our work to build the framework
for the planking over the 2nd track at the north end of the building. We
should be ready to complete this task this week.
||With the framework completed, a bigger project was
started & completed to remove the "Hump" from the
track crossing the curb at the rear parking area. More ballast
removal, re-grading, tie locations adjusted, etc, then
re-ballasting, straightening & leveling.
We hope that this will be the last time we'll need to work on this
section, but it remains to be seen. Here is photographic evidence that the
rail rests on the concrete.
At the end of the day, Raymond was able to take a lap or two only to
find more track issues at turnouts along the back side of the building for
us to work on next week.
Don't forget that there is a General Membership Meeting this Friday
with dinner being served beginning at 5:30 PM and the meeting beginning at
7:00 PM. In addition, there is an Open House scheduled for Sunday between
12:30 PM and 4:30 PM.
Hope to see some of you brave souls Saturday AM.
Saturday (June 1, 2013):
The work session this Saturday is CANCELLED due to the Summer Train Show:
Friday, May 31, 2013
Open to the Public 2:00 pm - 7:00 pm
Saturday, June 1, 2013
Open to the Public 9:00 am - 2:00 pm
As normal, we will be meeting on Friday morning at 8:00 AM at the Museum
to load tables to be transported to the Expo Center. We can get into the
Expo Center to begin the set up at 9:00 AM and should be done within an
hour or so. We know the routine and as usual, many hands make this job go
pretty quickly. The floor will be pre-marked with tape so table placement
can begin as soon as we arrive at the Expo Center (Irvington & Palo
Verde). History has shown that the set up takes about an hour.
Please consider helping us with this move as well as take down on Saturday
afternoon beginning at 2 PM.
Using our tables creates a significant cost savings to the GPD on this
major Fund Raising event.
Hope to see you this Friday at 8:00 AM at the Museum to load tables.
Saturday (May 25, 2013):
This Saturday, beginning at 7:00 AM, we will continue the work
on the front crossing as well as testing and leveling the track around the
facility. With the Open House scheduled for Sunday, this will be an
important work session for us as we again could have some trains operating
during the Open House if operators are willing. We will also need to do
the Janitorial work in the Museum at the end of the work session as Sunday
is the Open House. Please consider coming to either the work session or
the Open House or both.
Last week, the work continued on the track crossing at the north
side of the Museum with discussion about transitioning the wooden walkway
from the siding to the turntable to the Golden Spike ceremonial track
section. We set up a 10 x 10 canopy creating some appreciated shade and
began the task of evaluation.
|Although occurring at the end of the work session,
much needed track leveling was also performed outside the caboose
enclosure where a vertical curve (dip) in the track was eliminated
and attention was given to providing some super-elevation to this
curve. There are a couple of track joints that need to be double
tied next week. While work on the front walkway was going on, some
of the members took it upon themselves to perform some needed tree
trimming work. Jeff even stopped by to do some of the "heavy
The first issue tackled on the front walkway was to slightly lower the
elevation of the board immediately next to the track as the wide
"dual gauge" wheels on Don's speeder ran onto the boards leaving
small marks. The belt sander made relatively short work of this issue.
||After the sanding was done, we looked at the space
between the siding track and the Golden Spike ceremonial track. The
elevation of the Golden Spike track is about 1/2" different
(higher) than the siding track. After some careful thought &
discussion, it was decided that the wooden walkway would need to
slightly slope uphill to compensate for the different elevations.
The Golden Spike track is relatively level between the two rails
while the siding track has a small amount of gradient to it.
This coupled with the elevation difference makes designing the
support structure for the boards a little tricky. It became clear that the
best solution would also be a long term solution - build a concrete
footing upon which the structure could be set.
|So, with agreement in hand, the ballast was pulled out
of the way & out came the pick & shovel. A shallow 4"
footing was quickly dug. Luckily, the area had been previously dug
up so we encountered no caliche'.
After a lot of measuring including some fit & finish work, a
slightly tapered wooden form was made & set on top of the first
tie within the Golden Spike Ceremonial track. 3-sacks of concrete
were mixed and then placed into the formed trench.
||A little bit of screed work, and the foundation is
ready for the next work session. The weather was great again as it
is predicted to be this weekend.
Hope to see you Saturday (and Sunday too if you can make it.)
Saturday (May 18, 2013):
Summer is headed our way, so it's a good thing that the start time got
moved up to 7:00 AM. This Saturday, we can continue to complete the rail
crossing at the north end of the walk if we wish, although it isn't
necessarily that important. The bigger task is going to be addressing a
couple of "vertical curve" issues that need to be addressed on
the layout. The continuous running of Raymond & Don's trains have
helped us to identify these locations so we'll start to get the
"LOWS" raised and the "HIGHS" lowered as needed. In
addition, we will probably experiment with rail joiners at the curve near
the caboose enclosure.
Last weekend was near perfect in many regards. Saturday's work
session had awesome weather - warm with breezes. Work continued on
extending the wood across the tracks at the front walk north of the main
entrance to the Museum. While that was going on, Bob Rubino straightened
out the support ties on the turnout near the west corner of the building
in preparation of mounting the switch machine.
||The wood work went along quickly as most of the boards
placed this day were not in need of any special cutting. We made
relatively short work of the project and finished the work with a
belt sanding and then application of the 1st coat of linseed oil. It
really looks good and those who have worked on this should be
|As you can see by the pictures, we stopped short of
crossing the 2nd track as Roger wasn't there to apply his skill set
of "cut & fit". This weekend we can possibly get
across the 2nd track (or not).
We needed to begin running trains and both Raymond and Don were
on hand with their equipment ready to facilitate the process.
||Things began slowly and we found that the slow speeds
seem to aggravate the problematic locations where derailments were
experienced. A fairly significant vertical curve issue with a
moderate rail joint interference was quickly identified on the back
curve near the caboose enclosure. Interestingly, as speed was
increased, the derailment problem pretty much disappeared. Raymond
described the condition as hitting the "sweet spot" of
speed to allow trouble free operation.
With successful operation "under the belt", it was decided
that we could and should have a train out for the Open House on Sunday.
Although we don't want to begin public operation at this point, we do want
to get the public's reaction to the big trains. With expected attendance
to be low due to Mother's Day, it was an ideal time to start demonstrating
the possibilities. The picture above shows Don talking with one of the
youngsters who came out for the Open House. No problems whatsoever were
experienced during the event.
To our missing members who had to go back east for the summer, did you
happen to see the news report on the "Ice Tsunami" in Minnesota?
Hugh, what's with that? It's supposed to be spring! We miss you all you
See you this Saturday @ 7:00 AM. Track work and train operation is on the
Saturday (May 11, 2013):
Last week, we moved up the start time to 7:30 and this week, we're
going to do it again. This Saturday, we'll meet at 7:00 AM as there is
plenty of daylight at 7:00 AM and we can avoid some of the heat later in
the morning. There is even a whisper of a chance that we could get some
sprinkles, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
This Saturday, we'll continue our work on the wood decking rail
crossing that was begun last week. While that is going on, I want to
encourage either Raymond or Don to operate their equipment if possible as
we continue to work on the track. If we can get reliable operation, we may
even think about having an engine running during the Open House on Sunday.
Switch machines also need to get mounted on three of the turnouts.
Last Saturday, work began on installing the wood across the tracks
at the end of the brick walkway.
||With the rails curving through the area and the
walkway made of straight boards wanting to be parallel with the
bricks, the effort will need to proceed slowly to achieve "the
look". A lot of hand cutting, template making, and trim-to-fit
efforts will ultimately be rewarded with a great looking
While the wood work was proceeding, the brick border was being placed
by a new volunteer newcomer (Chris) who is the son of a new GPD Member
|Chris, who is a tile setter by trade, made short and
skillful work of the 2nd border setting giving Glenn & Burt a
break from the agony of getting more "OJT" (on the job
training). It went so fast, that we didn't get pictures of the
process. Thank you to Chris for being willing to help us out with
this project. Rumor has it that Chris has also offered to come back
when we're ready to do the remaining brick work in the station
platform area as well as the patio portions north of the track.
While the last bricks were getting set, we began backfilling the sides
of the walkway eliminating the ditches.
||Bob invented new ways to empty wheelbarrows full of
dirt (PS: without getting hurt). It's funny how Jesse is always
there to get these little glitches documented.
After the border was laid, and the sides backfilled, grade sloped
gently away with the area raked & smoothed, we set silica sand
into the brick joints and washed down the surface..
||The whole process went well and the results are really
great looking. With the Open House this Sunday, we're looking
forward to comments from the visitors.
With some luck, we might even be able to get a train running for the
Open House on Sunday - we'll just have to wait and see.
Looking forward to seeing you Saturday.
Saturday (May 4, 2013):
For you G-Gauge guys thinking toward the future of doing G-Gauge
outside, this link to an Ebay auction may be of interest.
This Saturday, the start time will move up to 7:30 AM. It's that
time of year! It won't be long and we'll be starting even earlier. Two
projects begun last Saturday will continue this Saturday with the brick
border along the walkway at the front of the Museum hopefully getting
completed and work will also continue on the board placements across the
tracks. Track testing with trains and leveling efforts are also on the
Last Saturday, we began the installation of the brick border and
the process went much slower than anticipated. The area preparation went
well enough, but with very little brick laying history amongst the group,
it was literally one brick at a time.
||Lesson #1: The mortar mixing was way ahead of the
brick placement and the first lesson learned was that the mortar
doesn't wait for the brick layers.
||Lesson #2: Neatness does count as the mortar really
stands out when spilled onto the brick surface.
||Lesson #3: Acid wash does remove some of the mess, but
it must be watered down because it can also start dissolving the
|It was decided a few month ago to not extend brick
into the area between the RR tracks, but to use boards as was done
prototypically in the old days. Redwood was selected for various
reasons including cost & workability. Trying to obtain 1"
thick redwood however, is not easy. A 4 x 4, 12' long was obtained
and ripped into three 1" thick boards. They will be cut to
length and used for the project which was laid out by Hugh &
Cutting & installation will begin next week as templates were made,
supports were cut & installed and the area re-ballasted. Given the
curved nature of the tracks at the crossing location, the installation is
no where as easy as it may appear.
||Raymond McDaniel was nice enough to get out the ole
Great Northern and begin the process of track testing so that
evaluation of the system may continue. A lot more of this must occur
before we begin the public exposure.
Weather was great as usual, but it was with mixed emotions that one of
our winter visitors (Hugh Madsen) will be returning to his home in
Minnesota for the summer. Rumor has it that the snow shovel is awaiting
his return home as the ground is still frozen. Hurry back Hugh and God
Hope to see you Saturday.
PS: General Membership Meeting tomorrow night with Sub Sandwiches being
served beginning at 5:30 and the meeting beginning at 7:00 PM. No open
house this weekend.
PPS: Train Meet at the end of the month. We'll be moving tables on Friday
morning, May 31st beginning at 8 AM. We should be done about 10 AM. Please
put that date on your calendar.
Saturday (April 27, 2013):
This Saturday, we'll again meet to work on a couple of projects.
The brick is set out front, but the borders need to be mortared in. This
will be slow going and we won't need many people involved as it's one
brick at a time for the most part. While that is going on, there is a
considerable amount of track leveling and aligning that needs to be done
in the back of the building where the passing siding and spur are located.
The switch machines still need to be installed as well. We also want to
begin running trains again to get the entire track work tested and settled
in which will involve more leveling and straightening. There's a lot to
do, so please join us.
|Last Saturday, the last of the straight track
sections were assembled.
Shortly after, the template table was separated and loaded in
Dale's truck for salvaging. That table was awful good to us and
certainly served its' purpose, but it was time for it to be gone.
The space in the work room will be very welcome by the OH G-Gauge
group as they are beginning their construction of track sections.
While the track sections were being built, the brick crew headed to the
front and began spreading sand into the curbed and previously prepared and
||Spreading the sand and leveling it with a short screed
board proved to be relatively easy, especially since the walk area
is less than 5' wide.
|The bricks arrived on cue, just before we got the sand
leveled. Thanks to Mark @ Rock Solid Materials for delivering the
pallet of concrete pavers to the area immediately next to where we
were laying them. The pallet of pavers weighs in at about 3,000
pounds which is more than Glenn's bobcat can move, so this was
||The sand leveled and wetted down a bit, the laying
process began - somewhat tentatively at first as we weren't entirely
sure of the process. We snapped a string right down the middle and
following the alignment. It took about 30 minutes to set the brick
and we were done.
|The walkway will get it's mortared in border this
Saturday and will then be open for walking on. As we sell the
engraved brick (light colored to contrast with the red pavers), they
will be installed into a space created by removing one of the red
A fine sand will be used to fill the gaps which are created by
small bumps protruding from the sides of the bricks. It's going to
Hope to see you all this Saturday. Weather should be great.
Saturday (April 20, 2013):
Work will resume on the front side walk area with initial setting of
pavers. With Glenn Ellis' help, we will be bringing in sand, so we'll be
ready to begin the process of setting the brick. If you have never done
this before, don't feel like the Lone Ranger - it will be a learning
process for all of us.
|Last Saturday, with a large group of us missing
due to various conflicts, work proceeded on construction of more
straight track and from what was observed during Wednesday's BOD
meeting, several sections were assembled & neatly stacked on the
As usual, Jesse Miller was diligent taking pictures and
documenting the progress, so below are some of his photos
documenting the work that was performed.
||Thanks to Mike Tuinstra and the OH G-Gauge group, the
building got opened up early so everyone could get in without delay.
Working in the same room, they too cranked out additional track
Neat picture of Walt Disney on Lillibelle, his 7-1/2" gauge
4-4-0 American running around the Carolwood Pacific RR at his home.
The steamer was a perfect miniature live steam model of the steamers
that are still running around Disneyland in Anaheim.
|While work inside progressed, Jesse made modifications
to the recently re-installed cross buck by moving the rear sign
forward making it more readable from the side.
The Windmill has potentially seen it's last day of operation. The
50 mph winds were too much for it and centrifugal forces caused
vanes to become undone and so it has been removed. I don't know what
will become of the pieces or the structure - anyone have any ideas?
Saturday (April 13, 2013):
Although some members will be absent, the work session this Saturday is
still scheduled to happen. Due to the kind offering of Mike Tuinstra to
open the building in the absence of other key holders, the normal meeting
time of 8:00 AM will be in effect. The work scheduled for the day will be
construction of straight track sections. How many get built will be an
exercise of when the ties run out. When they do, we will have to cut
additional ties, probably using the brown treated lumber left in the 40'
container as it will not be cost effective to take only a partial pallet
of untreated ties up to Eloy for treatment.
Although it won't necessarily matter as the work will be done inside, the
weather this Saturday should be another chamber of commerce day.
Last weekend, as usual the group split into a couple of groups
doing separate projects. First effort concentrated around
"replanting" the RR X'ing sign that was removed during previous
brick excavation work. The first project was to figure out a good
location. The area adjacent to the RR track crossing the sidewalk entrance
to the Museum was selected.
||Then, Dale brought forth his water pic invention and
the hole got dug to the appropriate depth. Of course, no project
like this should be performed without proper supervision.
Luckily, we had qualified supervisors available which proved helpful.
|Rather than do a direct bury as was done with the
original placement, the group dug the hole a little bigger than
necessary and used concrete to set the sign. This will greatly
increase it's stability and longevity.
The finished product really looks good and is a great improvement
over the original placement.
|| While the sign placement was going on, another
group began building another straight track section on the template
table inside. It's been a while since we've done this, but the
process came back to everyone pretty quickly. About an hour and the
1st piece was moved outside. Next weekend, another section or two
can get built.
Last, or first, the paint was touched up on the 20' container where the
latching hardware was relocated during the previous work session restoring
its' great looking appearance. In addition, the two sections of 10"
drain pipe were relocated into the Caboose enclosure to remove the
temptation for youngsters to do their log rolling exercises. All in all,
it was another great day at the Train Museum.
Hope you guys have another great day this Saturday.
Saturday (April 6, 2013):
This Saturday at 8:00 AM, we'll meet at the Museum to continue
with the task of getting track alignment and leveling completed.
Unfortunately, the brick won't be arriving this week as hoped, but I'm
told it will be here early next week. We can also mount the switch
machines as the mounting brackets were completed by Raymond
Last Saturday was a busy day with multiple projects being worked
Some of the group took on the project to add a back panel for the wooden
trackside enclosure. In order to match the weathered appearance of the
front exposure, the back was pieced together using old wood donated from
Steve Collins. It was a perfect match and was perfect for this task.
||Working with a "Sow's Ear", Dave & Hugh
created "Silk". The look achieved is exactly what we were
hoping for. Another task well done.
Probably the biggest task of the day involved lowering the 20'
container and replacing the blocks that were holding it up with more
stable concrete piers. Picking up a 6,000 pound container (excluding
contents) using a high lift jack wasn't terribly difficult.
||Dale brought his high lift jack which could lift
either end of the container high enough to allow the work to be
done. While Dale & Burt were busy raising and setting the
container onto the new
|lower concrete piers, Glenn, David, and
Bob were removing and relocating the door latching mechanism for
clearance purposes to the approach track.
One unplanned issue related to lowering the container is that the large
HDPE drainage pipe sections would no longer fit below the container.
Although they can be left outside exposed to the sun, they aren't exactly
pretty and could be a hazard to any kids who might be walking around the
backside of the container. We'll need to find a place for them (out of
sight hopefully) until we've decided to get rid of them.
|While container work continued, Hugh, Dave, George,
David, and Jesse took on the task of working on track leveling &
alignment stabilization on the curve section to the west of the
container. This work is critical to the reliability that we need to
experience with the trackage as we begin to use the track.
||Track leveling work is a somewhat tedious project, but
is critical for our railroad and, as in previous efforts, the
results were favorable. A little more leveling will complete the
task on this section and hopefully reduce derailment occurrence.
Track leveling needs to continue from this location north along the
side of the building - especially the sidings which have never been
As we begin edging closer to summer, some of our winter visitors will
be heading back east. Dave's last work session until the fall was last
Saturday and we'll miss him. Hurry back Dave.
It was another great day at the train museum. Hope to see all of you this
Saturday @ 8:00 AM.
PS: Tomorrow night there is a General Membership Meeting.
Saturday (March 30, 2013):
This Saturday, beginning at 8:00 AM, we'll continue working on
the track eliminating various imperfections as we discover them.
Currently, we have some issues on the curve at the west corner of the
property between the containers. While this is going on, we need to also
reposition (lower) the 20' container and place it onto the concrete piers
that were previously obtain for that purpose. This will make it more
accessible for Big Joe plus eliminate the broken hollow CMU units
currently being used. As part of that project, we also need to move the
door linkage on the right hand door of the container to the center
position so that it will not conflict with the approach track when we
lower the container.
Last Saturday, work began on taking the noticeable hump out of the
back straight where the curb crossing occurs behind the parking. The
expansion gaps were opened up as it appears that the hump was born from
expansion issues. Ballast was removed, the track lowered to where it was
straight, and the section re-balanced and leveled.
While the crew was slaving away with the track, Jesse was getting a
birds eye view of how the work was progressing.
George got a great picture of Jesse taking a great
picture of George.
Work progressed and we finally got the section of track corrected
including some tie replacements while we were there. As we finished up,
Jacob Payne arrived to take a look at the 20' container where the storage
racks are to be installed. A plan was discussed and confirming
measurements taken. Big Joe was scooted down to the container and the
platform raised to verify vertical travel. It is moments like that which
cause me to wish I hadn't got out of bed that morning. Big Joe wouldn't
reach high enough to access the planned top level of storage within the
container. There were two primary reasons for this - one is the conflict
caused by installing the lights at the top of the vertical members of Big
Joe. These prevented the platform from raising to its' full potential
height. This was easily remedied (temporarily) by removing the lights, but
then the real culprit was discovered. The rollers that were installed to
prevent the excessive tilting of the platform prevent the platform from
being raised much more than about 5 feet high before the rollers slide off
the top of the verticals. This won't be easily remedied at all. The roller
installation adequately solved the problem of the excessive tilting, but
we're going to have to come up with another solution or give up on
accessing the 3rd tier of the storage in the container with Big Joe.
||This picture shows the platform raised to
it's absolute highest position with the rollers still in contact
with the uprights. Although it doesn't appear too bad in this photo,
the 20' container is somewhat higher than the 40' container shown in
the picture. I addition, the maximum vertical won't get to the upper
(3rd tier) shelf height planned in either container. "Close,
but no cigar" as they say.
We, as a group, have taken on so many challenges on this project,
I'm confident that we can overcome this, but it's a setback
| The solution will probably involve a combination
of several ideas including rack design changes, lower the container,
re-engineering the platform guide of Big Joe in some fashion,
possibly adding spacers between the forklift forks and the platform
thus raising the platform slightly. There are probably other
possibilities as well. All need to be discussed and a solution
Looking forward to seeing everyone this Saturday. Weather couldn't be
better. Bricks are on the way, but aren't here yet.
Saturday (March 23, 2013):
This Saturday, we'll attempt to get back on track (literally) by
meeting at 8:00 AM at the Museum. Weather should be downright
|There will be a lot of stories
shared from the visit to the MLS Spring Meet as a bunch of
our members ventured up to the meet as well as the swap meet
next door and appeared to have enjoyed the experience. Here
are some photos to make those not attending wish that they
Nope, that's not the interior of the cab of a real
4-6-6-4 steam locomotive, it's Bruno's Challenger in
1-1/2" scale, 7-1/2" gauge and you can own this
behemoth for a mere $189,000.00.
Check out this link: discoverlivesteam.com/discoverforsale/forsale/1_todaro/index.htm
|Pretty near everyone who went were given rides
on one train or another. Here, Jeff is getting instructions
from the owner of the locomotive that he's sitting behind
and Jesse is putting his life in his hands riding with Jeff
at the controls. If I overhead the instructions correctly,
it was something on the order of take the 1st right and then
stop at the Circle K and bring back a case of Miller Lite.
It was a great day, not too hot - just right. We did a lot of
train watching and saw some derailments up close - yeah, they have
them up there too. We learned what MLS is doing with their track
system using continuous steel welded rail on the outside of the
curved track while keeping aluminum on the inside.
||Those are all GPD guys riding the train in the
lower left photo above. We also got to get some dimensions
| racks inside some of the
containers which will become helpful soon.
You may remember our last work session that was 2-weeks ago (it
seems like months ago). Below are photos taken during the work that was
going on. The rains let up and we were able to pull the forms from the
brick walkway border foundations and begin to backfill with base material.
Burt pulled out the plate compactor, went and got some gas, fired it up
& shazam ! ! ! Burt turned the reins over to Dale and the compaction
went on without a hitch. The base material was dampened by the rain which
was just the right amount of wetness and it compacted beautifully.
It's nice to see drainage systems working like they should. I'm told,
by Bob, that the initials carved into our freshly poured concrete are
actually the year 2013. If I didn't know better, I would think that just
above this may be more initials "JM" - hmmmm
With a little time on our hands, some additional drainage work was
massaged near the end of the 20' container.
Hope to see you all this Saturday at 8:00 AM
PS: for those insomniac's with capability to view U-Tube videos, this link
will no disappoint you. The video is nearly an hour long, but well worth
Union Pacific Historical Society - Steam Trains - Big Boys 1960
Saturday (March 9, 2013):
This Saturday, weather permitting, we'll continue working at the
front of the building on two related projects. The first will be to pull
the 2 x 6 forms and stakes that were used for the concrete pour last
weekend. We then need to import soil and base materials to bring the level
inside the main walkway up to within an inch of the bottom of the brick.
The base material will need to be leveled and compacted. This preparation
will enable the concrete pavers to be "sand-set" once the pavers
are delivered and sand is obtained. The 2nd project (concurrent) is to
re-align the rail that was moved during the excavation and re-level the
track in the ballast. If raining, all of this may need to be rescheduled.
Keep your fingers crossed although I'm sure that receiving rain wouldn't
necessarily be a bad thing. At worst, we can all go inside and pick out a
substitute project or play with trains.
|A friend of mine recently made a trip to Prescott
where he found an amazing railroad trestle just north of the city.
I lived in Prescott for 5 years and I don't remember ever seeing
this. This trestle, over 400' in length, is located about 1/2 mile
east of the municipal golf course, about 1/2 mile north of highway
89A. If you can use Google Earth, type in Antelope Hills Golf
Course in the search line. Then pan to the east about 1/2 mile
east of the eastern most portion of the Golf Course. The bridge is
located at the north end of the Peavine Trail which is under
development. Apparently, the trestle is part of the old AT&SF
ROW. Perhaps some of you history buffs may have more information
about this spindly looking structure. My first take on this was
that there is no way a train would cross over this thing, but
apparently it was a real RR trestle and trains did pass over it.
Below are a couple of pictures taken by him. Obviously, the
railroad is no longer using this bridge.
Maybe even more amazing is the fact that
it's still standing. It is built across Granite Creek. I'm not
sure I'd walk across this thing!
Last week, the group did the concrete pour into the forms that
were placed the previous week. This involved having to mix 25, 80# bags of
pre-mix concrete. The forms had been leveled & properly set to the
correct elevation during the previous afternoon so all that remained was
attaching a piece of bender board to the sides of the ties to prevent
concrete migration into the track. We were about to start piecing 4' long
pieces of rebar together when Jacob Payne arrived with a load of 20' long
pieces of 1/2" rebar. Wow, did that speed things up. The morning did
get of to a somewhat ominous beginning as Glenn Ellis, who had the 19 bags
of concrete in the back of his truck, accidently locked himself out of the
truck with the engine running at his house. Consequently, he was a little
late in arriving as he had to wait for the locksmith guy to arrive and
break into his truck. We had 6 bags of concrete in the Conex, so the group
got started without the rest of the concrete getting to the Museum. At
virtually the moment when we finished placing the first 6 bags, Glenn
arrived with the other 19.
||Everyone found a job they were
comfortable with and the work progressed smoothly. There's
something very satisfying about working with concrete. The
| is short lived and the results
usually outlast everyone.
||It was a beautiful day - not too cool, not too warm.
No one got hurt, no concrete dumped on the ground, Jesse didn't turn
into a concrete dust magnet. It was all good.
Finally, strong backs prevailed with the goal
of getting the job completed and the area cleaned up before 10 AM when the
Tour of the Garden began and visitors to the Museum began to arrive.
At 9:38, we called the project completed and set about the task of
cleaning up. While the finishing touches were being
|| Jesse went about the task of removing some dead
wood from one of the trees at the front of the Museum property.
Burt's truck got loaded for a run to the dumpster and we were
Was that BOB scratched into the concrete finish? You just have to watch
these guys all the time ! ! !
Hope to see you this Saturday, even if it's raining we'll have the
Saturday (March 2, 2013):
This Saturday will become quite a challenge for our group as we
must quickly mix & place concrete into the forms that were staked but
not set to elevation during our work session last Saturday. This work will
include placing rebar into the forms as well. The challenge presented
isn't so much the mixing and placing of the concrete, but rather doing it
quickly before large groups of public show up at the Museum at 10 AM for
the beginning of the Rails in the Garden Tour that the Museum is
participating in. To my knowledge, there are only 11 sites on the tour
this year so it's likely that we could be visited by a significant number
of people. With the weather report suggesting almost perfect conditions,
we'll need to work fast.
Please be ready at 8 AM sharp to begin the work. For those who may be
available to come to the Wednesday night work night, we could begin, or
perhaps even complete the form leveling so that concrete placement could
begin shortly after 8 AM meaning we could easily be done & cleaned up
by the time the Garden Railway tour gets to the Museum.
Last Saturday, another great turnout with ideal weather conditions
so a lot of work get completed. Raymond got the transfer table ready for
"transferring" again and there are reported to be some anxious
operators waiting in the wings.
||The front side of the museum got the footings dug and
forms staked into place although they still need to get leveled with
elevations set. This work is critical to get our brick donation
sales ramped up.
|The digging still required a little bit
of pick work as the caliche' presented itself again near the
surface. Many hands made this work more along relatively
||As work progressed outside, there was even some time
to go inside and tweek the HO a little bit.
Glenn brought in a trailer hub and a piece of galvanized steel pipe
that he found laying around in a friends yard. It was evaluated to see if
it could be used for the pivot on the turntable. It was definitely heavy
duty enough, and probably could have been used to pivot a real turntable.
We had previously received a small hub assembly from Wes Slagel but it was
felt it might not be heavy duty enough. Something in-between would be
perfect. Sounds like the story of goldilocks and the 3 bears. Word is that
Glenn has obtained a perfect sized, 5 hole lug, trailer hub that should be
Burt showed the group the most recent donation that came in from an
anonymous source although it did get delivered to the Museum in Jacob
Paynes trailer. It was all the channel iron needed to fabricate the
turntable including the bar stock to form the ring around the perimeter
upon which the outer wheels will ride. Consequently, materials won't hold
us up when we're ready to begin that construction project. In addition, we
received angle iron that can be used to support the station platform
currently being designed.
At the end of the work session, yellow caution tape was strung out to
discourage the public from wandering into the excavation at the Open House
the following day and we then retired to lunch. It was another great day
at the Train Museum.
See you all this Saturday @ 8 AM sharp.
Saturday (February 23, 2013):
While I watched in awe and marveled at the snowfall this morning, I'm
told that things will get back to relative normal this Saturday as we
should be seeing mid 60's again on Saturday. We'll meet @ 8:00 AM as
At the end of our work session, it will be important to make the front of
the Museum safe for visitors by properly cordoning off the area being
graded for the brick pathway as there is an Open House scheduled for
Sunday. We we can finish the excavation work and perhaps even get the
forming done in preparation for the concrete & rebar for the small
foundations that will support the border bricks. We might even try taking
out the kink that was accidentally put into the track next to the
excavation. We won't be able to prepare the foundations for the Station
Platform columns as construction drawings for that project must be first
prepared and then sent through the permitting process again with the COT.
We have no idea what time element may be involved in that process but
hopefully it can be quick do to the small nature of the project.
Last Saturday, Raymond completed work on plumbing the filter system
for Big Joe. He also installed a small solar battery charger to keep the
battery system charged.
||A small amount of hydraulic oil is all that is needed
to get this project back up and running. While this work was going
on, the crew began the grading for the new brick walkway out
What proved to be the toughest part of this effort was moving the
concrete table & benches. The rest of the dig was accomplished using
the bobcat and it's distinguished operator.
Only one hiccup which the track crew assured could be fixed with little
more than a couple of whacks with a sledge hammer.
||We keep making progress with every session. Here's a
contest for you - guess where the picture at the lower left was
taken. For the answer, you'll need to show up Saturday @ 8 AM.
The fundraising committee which included several of the 7-1/2"
gauge group, met at 11:00 AM in the meeting room. The purpose was to
decide on the brick style and engraving method. Presented were clay and
concrete bricks with sandblasted and laser engraving examples. Brick
patterns were also discussed. Consensus was reached to use concrete bricks
with sandblasted engraving. We are researching using Mark, the owner of
the Rock Solid Materials next door to the Museum, as a source for our
concrete bricks. We will also be exploring having him do the engraving.
The photo above shows the brick style intended with some color options and
also shows both sandblasted (left) and laser engraving (right). Basket
weave vs. running bond brick patterns were also discussed. Basket weave
(depiction provided from Jesse Miller below) would enable us to be able to
offer a two-tier brick sale option with 4 x 8 or 8 x 8 sizes. Running bond
would require 4" fill in pieces anywhere 8 x 8 bricks were used.
.More information will be gathered soon so that forms will be able to be
put together and we'll be able to obtain the materials and start
Hope to see everyone this Saturday.
Saturday (February 16, 2013):
Great weather is coming back and we should have a great chance of
getting some work done this Saturday at 8:00 AM. We can begin prepping the
area up front for the impending brick work as the BOD has approved funding
to proceed with that project. This will include scraping enough dirt out
of the walkway alignment to accommodate brick & sand depth plus
digging shallow footings for the borders. This would enable us to be able
to pour concrete the following Saturday into the border footings. I think
we have all the pieces needed to complete the re-assembly of Big Joe, so
that project should be able to get wrapped up. We also still need to mount
2 switch machines as well. If there is time, we may event get to run a
locomotive and continue getting the track system straightened out.
We are also tentatively meeting as a fund raising group with Ivan English
to finalize the brick selection. This meeting will be held in the meeting
room at the Museum at about 11:00 AM.
Last week, with a great turnout, but shaky weather, we mainly
prepared to receive and host the Hudson Car Club at the Museum.
Several of their group traveled from the Phoenix area and beyond to tour
our Museum and hold their monthly meeting. While they were enjoying the
trains, we were enjoying their cars.
Not many 36 Hudson pickups around and certainly not many in this kind
of condition! The proud owner's father bought this pickup new at Rollings
Motor Company, the Hudson Dealership, right here in Tucson at 412 to 420
North Sixth Ave (pictured from Sixth Ave.). The proud owner said that he
learned how to drive in this truck and he has lovingly restored it to it's
better than new condition. The building is still there as evidenced by the
Amazing what you can find on the internet - below is a postcard
from the dealership dated 1941 advertising a new Hudson Coupe for
only $877. Apparently, the dealership changed it's name to Rollings
Dawson Motor Co. in or around 1939.
Here's another advertisement from Rollings Motor Company that was
apparently in the Arizona Daily Star in 1932. Check out those
prices! Check out the 4-digit phone number.
|The 1939 Coupe below, was in remarkable non-restored
||The 56 Hudson below was updated with a late model
power plant, but retained it's original beauty.
Below are the kind of Hudson's that I remember most. These cars get out
on the freeway and are very happy keeping up with traffic - or even
passing the traffic.
Don VanManen, who is a member of that group, was the host for their
visit. They had a potluck lunch at the Museum and spent a lot of time
inside enjoying the layouts and displays plus some braved the cold outside
and actually became the first non-museum member passengers on the
7-1/2" gauge RR. Don gave some of the group rides around the facility
using his trusty reliable Fairmont replica as well as his small electric
All in all, it was a great morning at the Train Museum and the food was
the best part of it. This group really knows how to eat well. The baked
turkey by Don was awesome - and every part of the meal was delicious.
Where the heck did he learn to cook like that?
Hope to see everyone this Saturday at 8:00 AM.
PS: This Saturday, we will also discuss the possibility for us to
attend the Maricopa Live Steamers Spring Meet. This annual meet is a 5-day
event beginning on Wednesday, March 13th and lasting until Sunday, March
17th (flyer attached). There has been some stated interest to group car
pool & go up to this event - probably on Saturday meaning that the
work session would be cancelled or changed to another day. For information
regarding the meet, the MLS website is MaricopaLiveSteamers.com.
flyer] If we decide to go, those attending should register
on-line. There is no cost to register for the event.
Concurrent to this event is the AMRS (Adobe Mountain Railroad Society)
Swap Meet that only occurs on Saturday, the 16th beginning at 9:00 AM and
ending at 2:00 PM (flyer attached). It is held immediately adjacent to the
MLS site and is worth attending if you are there. This is why we are
considering the Saturday trip as opposed to another day. There is a $5
cost to enter the swap meet. AdobeMNTdesertRRpark.com [PDF flyer]
Saturday (February 9, 2013):
This Saturday could be a little problematic depending upon the
weather. Rain is again predicted and we'll be lucky to see 50 degrees. The
temperature isn't the major problem, but rain could be. We are still
scheduling the work session though, as we are expecting the Hudson Car
Club to arrive at the Museum about 11:00 AM for their potluck & tour.
Don VanManen, who belongs to the Hudson Club, intends on having one of his
engines and some cars at the facility to give some of his Car Club friends
a ride on the 7-1/2" gauge RR. Thus, we will need to make an effort
outside (weather permitting) to test the trackage and correct any notable
imperfections. This will be the main focus for the work session.
We should also have the replacement in-line filter and flexible hose to
make Big Joe "whole" again. So if it isn't raining, Raymond will
be able to work his magic with the transfer table to get it operating
again and hopefully a little more environmentally friendly.
At the BOD meeting last night, the budget proposals from all layout
committees were approved. This included the acquisition of materials for
construction of the brick pathway from the front of the Museum to the main
line track as well as the extension to the East. It also includes
acquisition of materials for construction of the station platform. Thus
both of these projects have been immediately moved into a "high
The work session last Saturday was a busy one with several projects
being performed concurrently. Jim DeGrood was kind enough to get initial
survey work prepared for getting some horizontal control taken care of by
locating the brick pathway, station platform column footings, and the
turntable with stakes & spikes. Elevations were also shot giving us
much needed grade information. This effort is extremely timely given the
recent BOD action. We so much appreciate Jim's help.
||We welcomed David Inman back and he was a big help to
Jim. David, a Civil Engineering major at the UA, is currently
studying surveying and helping Jim with this effort was probably
After some amount of deliberation, a decision was made to move the
turntable center point approximately 2' closer toward the street to get
the ring wall out of the drainage wall slope which will help in the
forming & construction as no retaining structure will be necessary.
While the survey work was going on, Don VaManen brought out his little gas
speeder (Fairmont replica) and found some more rough spots in the
||The rough spots were marked and the track crew went to
work with their remedies. The results of their efforts were
favorable as several adjustments including some tie replacements
were made and no more derailments occurred.
As always, we sure appreciate the photo documentation that is provided
to us from Jesse Miller. It's hard to predict just how important the
legacy will be that he and others have provided to us by capturing these
moments with pictures.
Besides that, it's fun to reflect back. Here's a picture from 1 year ago
taken behind the building. We were just starting to install the main line.
Turnouts were under construction inside the back porch.
Hope to see you all this Saturday & also hope we don't get rained
Saturday (February 2, 2013):
This Saturday, the weather should be awesome - back to normal,
maybe even a little warmer than normal. We will meet at 8:00 AM to begin
layout of the turntable and the Station Platform. We need to get these
locations tied down so that we can establish grades when Jim Degrood can
join us. Hopefully, Jim will be able to attend Saturday, but if he can't,
we still need to get things staked out. The track laid a couple of weeks
ago needs to have the leveling completed. Switch machines need to be
installed and track conditions all around the property need to be checked,
hopefully by operating some of the equipment on the track.
Last week, with the Museum receiving a long overdue, welcome, &
beautiful rain during the work session. We couldn't help but peek outside
during the rain to see how well the drainage structures which we have
built during the past two years are working.
||The following photo was taken shortly after the rains
stopped and virtually no standing water anywhere.
Do you remember what the back of the building looked like before we
|The Group took advantage of being inside as a group
& brainstormed the design of the turntable assembly.
Using photos taken from the MLS facility, we made some design
decisions to facilitate construction. Many decisions about details
were made and everyone seemed to enjoy the process. Burt will try to
have revised construction details with dimensions available this
Saturday at the work session.
Hope to see you all there.
PS: This Friday is the February General Membership Meeting. Dinner will be
served starting at 5:30 for those interested, meeting to begin at 7:00 PM.
Saturday (January 26, 2013):
This Saturday, with weather predictions suggesting rain, that is
very much needed in our community, the outdoor activities may be somewhat
curtailed. We'll just have to wait and see how that plays out.
If the weather holds back, we may be able to run a train to test track
conditions as well as turnout conditions. We also may be able to mount the
missing switch machines if they are ready.
If raining, we will use the opportunity to brainstorm the construction of
the turntable. Below are a few photos of the tried & proven
arrangements used at the MLS track in north Phoenix.
||They have built this turn table twice and it's design
is serving them well. The engines that access this turntable can
weigh in excess of 2,000 pounds, well more than what our loads will
impose. Notice the
|apparent monolithic pour of concrete for
the base & ring. The center is dirt although the center pivot is
set into concrete.
||The locking mechanism is relatively simple and the
transition from table to track is a separately fabricated steel
piece for consistency & control as can be seen from this
||It is unclear what the pivot assembly components are
from the pictures above. However, from this picture, it appears that
the center pivot uses an automotive style of hub & spindle
Although it is a little difficult to see in the two photos below, the
pair of flat roller wheels on each end of the table ride center on what
appears to be a piece of bar stock that appears to be imbedded into the
concrete forming a "step" approximately 1/2" to 3/4"
inches high in the concrete. The steel would perhaps prevent the concrete
from spawling or breaking from the loading imposed when the turntable gets
||Another view of the same assembly from below. Notice
all of the debris that collects on top of the concrete on each side
of the bar stock. This will be problematic if the roller were to
"bump" over small rock on the
|left (outside) of the roller but the
problem is much more forgiving on the right (inside) as the concrete
surface is lower by approximately 1/2".
It is clear from the photo above that the roller wheels ride centered
on top of that steel bar stock which results in them overhanging the bar
stock on the right (inside). There is a lot going on in the two photos
above for which I don't have a clear understanding, thus the need for
Last Week, work mainly centered around completing the last siding
on the rear of the building. The final track sections were installed,
aligned, adjusted, ballasted, and leveled. Many hands made very short work
of this effort.
||Portions of the previously fabricated track sections
had to be re-gauged due to original construction techniques not
maintaining required rail separation.
We want to welcome Fred Wilson back to the group after his summer
exodus to the the Midwest. And we also want to welcome two new "walk
on" members to the group (Roger Phillips from Casa Grande & Mike
Hejny from Tucson) who have jumped in and are bringing fresh eyes and
ideas plus strong backs to the construction process. Roger has a long
history of involvement in 7-1/2" gauge railroading and is the proud
owner of an engine with cars. We look forwarded to seeing him ride our
rails in the near future. Welcome to both of you.
In addition, Chairlie Rigney continued to provide materials and labor to
make the electrical connections inside the building that ultimately will
bring power to the 20' container and the caboose in the future. Charlie's
efforts, with Dale Cover's help, went on all day long finishing late in
the afternoon. Thank you to both of you for that unexpected and greatly
Hope to see you all this Saturday, beginning at 8:00 AM.
PS: don't forget the scheduled open house
at the Museum this Sunday beginning at 12:30 to 4:30. We can always use
help interacting with the public who comes to the Museum.
|PPS: A recent visitor to the Museum (Alfonso
Valenzuela) has a 7-1/2" gauge train that he wants to sell. He
also has many other fascinating toy & train related rare items
that he likes sharing including a Buddy L train that is in excellent
condition. The 7-1/2" gauge train consists of an electric 0-6-0
steam locomotion, tender, and three cars (hopper, flat &
caboose). This train appears to be hand built by a hobbyist many
years ago. There is a significant amount of wood used in it's
construction that may need repair and/or replacement to be
operational, but a more
|careful evaluation would be needed to
confirm this. A picture is provided above. If you are
interested in discussing this with Mr. Valencia, he can be reached
at 304-1367. Or you can contact Burt Wright or Glenn Ellis for more
information and/or photos.
Saturday (January 19, 2013):
After a very successful train show last Friday & Saturday and an
Open House on Sunday last weekend, the 7-1/2" gauge group will meet
this Saturday @ 8:00 AM at the Museum to continue working on several
projects. Most notable will be the continued work on the back side
of the building laying the 3rd track against the building. Once laid, we
can place ballast and begin leveling the siding as well as the passing
siding adjacent to it. The lever throw switch machines have been obtained
and can also be mounted on those turnouts currently not equipped.
During the last work session, two Saturday's ago, a lot of work was
being performed in several locations. The lions share of work was
occurring on the back side of the building where a 2nd headwall was set
around the north catch basin and base material was brought in and set
level to finished grade.
||A section of track was then placed beginning at the
|While the track laying was going on, the 40' container
was receiving some long overdue tool organizing effort by installing
materials that enable the rakes, shovels, and other items to be hung
up rather than laying in a pile next to the door.
||Raymond & Hugh were busy mounting lights on Big
Joe in preparation of evening running & operation.
We received some wonderful pictures from George Knecht, a relatively
new Museum member, taken during the Golden Spike Ceremony. A collage was
put together and has been printed and will be framed & posted in the
Museum commemorating this significant event.
Hope to see you all there on Saturday. The weather is predicted to be
"Chamber of Commerce" Tucson rather than Minneapolis. 70 should
Saturday (January 5, 2013):
This Saturday @ 8:00 AM will be the 1st work session for the
7-1/2" gauge group in 2013. The fiscal cliff has come and gone
(albeit temporarily). Now we can get down to the business of building a
railroad again. We have another load (5 tons) of base material again to
work with so we should be able to make the roadbed for the 3rd track flat
and ready at the rear of the building for placement of the last siding.
The work there needs to include building the head wall around the northern
roof drain termination. In addition, we can continue making inspections
and needed adjustments to the turnouts that we've installed.
Last Saturday, we had a great work session installing new conduits
underground to the electrical panel locations. This involved another
wonderful donation of equipment from Bingham Equipment Co. who graciously
allowed Glenn Ellis to use a Trencher Attachment for his Bobcat.
||That made relatively short work for about 3/4's of the
trenching that we needed to do. The other 1/4 was done by the old
method using picks, bars and shovels.
||Bottom line is that the task was completed and nothing
was damaged and no one was hurt.
Conduit was placed a minimum of 18" deep, photographed and
the trench backfilled. I want to personally thank Charlie Rigney for
taking the lead on the work occurring during this session to make
sure everything was done correctly and everyone stayed busy.
PS: Don't forget that this Friday (January 4th) will be the 1st
General Membership Meeting of the year at the Museum. The meeting begins
at 7:00 PM although dinner will begin being served ($5 donation) for those
wanting to come early at 5:30. Rumor is that the dinner will be "The
Super Chief" which is pulled Pork BBQ with corn and potato salad,
veggie tray, cookies and iced tea. Guests are always invited to attend
these monthly meetings.
PPS: Please put Friday/'Saturday, January 11th & 12th, on your
calendar as this is the weekend for the January Train Meet. If you haven't
got a table yet, there is still time. Contact Dave Hoverstock 909-0722 for
table information. As usual, we need help with the moving of tables to the
Expo Center which will begin at the Museum at 8:00 AM. In the past, we've
been able to get the tables moved and set up at the Expo Center by 10 AM.
Many hands make very short work of this process and saves the Museum a
huge amount of money. Your help is very much appreciated.
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